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EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder and Ronald Klain

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EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder and Ronald Klain

EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder and Ronald Klain

JUST HUMAN PRODUCTIONS

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EPIDEMIC is a twice-weekly podcast on public health and the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19). Hear from some of the world’s leading infectious disease and public health experts. We’ll help you understand the latest science, the bigger context, and bring you diverse angles—from history and anthropology to politics and economics—depth and texture you won’t get elsewhere. Hosted by Dr. Celine Gounder, an infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist who has worked on tuberculosis and HIV in sub-Saharan Africa, and was an Ebola worker during the West African epidemic. And co-hosted by Ron Klain, the U.S. Ebola czar from 2014 to 2015. The COVID-19 pandemic may well be the defining moment of our times. Our lives have changed irrevocably. We need to understand the science so we can care for ourselves, our families, and our communities. And we need voices of reason to help us make sense of it all.Email us your questions at hello@justhumanproductions.org or tweet us @celinegounder and @ronaldklain. We’ll answer a couple of questions on the show each week.#SARS-CoV-2 #COVID19 #coronavirus

Latest Episodes

S1E26 / Indigenous Peoples / Rebecca Nagle, Melissa Begay, and Jamescita Peshlakai

“I think there's always sort of like Indian humor with everything and so there were a lot of people making jokes about Trump putting a travel ban in place to stop the spread of disease from Europe. A lot of native people on Twitter and Facebook were commenting that it was, you know, a few centuries too late." -Rebecca Nagle In this episode,our host Dr. Celine Gounder speaks toRebecca Nagle, Dr. Melissa Begay, and Jamescita Peshlakai about why the Navajo Nation has been so hard hit by COVID, and what their communities are doing to protect everyone—young and old—during this pandemic. The Navajo Nation isthe nation’s largest indigenous tribe and has the highest per capita infection rate of COVID in the United States. Dr. Melissa Begay is a member of the Navajo Nation, and a physician at the University of New Mexico in the Department of Pulmonary, Sleep and Critical Care.Jamescita Peshlakai is anArizona State Representative and represents eight tribes in her district, including the ...

29 MIN21 h ago
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S1E26 / Indigenous Peoples / Rebecca Nagle, Melissa Begay, and Jamescita Peshlakai

S1E25 / A COVID Vaccine / Seth Berkley and Peter Hotez

“Terrible diseases like smallpox, polio, yellow fever where, you know, the capital in the United States in those days, Philadelphia, in the 1700s, 10% of the population died. When you vaccinate against them, you prevent them, and they no longer are problems.” - Seth Berkley In today’s episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain speak with Seth Berkley and Dr. Peter Hotez about a topic that has received a lot of attention lately-- vaccines. They discuss the processes involved in developing a vaccine for COVID-19, including when we can realistically expect a vaccine to become available to the public. They talk about the concept of herd immunity and how high vaccination rates are an essential component to this process. They also discuss the anti-vaxxer movement and how mis-messaging may be playing a part in fueling the flames of this movement in regards to a COVID-19 vaccine. Finally, they talk about the need for continued vaccine research in order to be prepared for the next inevitable pandemic. Also, co-host Ron Klain says his farewell to “Epidemic” fans as he announces that this will be his final episode as a co-host of the podcast. Seth Berkley is the CEO of the GAVI Vaccine Alliance. Dr. Peter Hotez is Dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine.

32 MIN3 d ago
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S1E25 / A COVID Vaccine / Seth Berkley and Peter Hotez

BONUS / #theshowmustbepaused

We’re going to hold the release of our next episode until tomorrow. The show must be paused. Consider this a moment of silence... a pause… in honor of George Floyd’s memory. This is a moment in which we should all take a knee… and take a stand against police brutality against the black community. When we should all ask… why have we’ve accepted laws and institutions… that lead people of color to get sick and die… in such higher numbers from the coronavirus… than the rest of us. This is a moment when… all of us… all of us Americans… must honor all the people of color in our nation who’ve died wrongly… needlessly… and senselessly. And so… let us pray for our country… let us contemplate a new way… let us hope… for a better future together.

2 MIN3 d ago
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BONUS / #theshowmustbepaused

S1E24 / Is the CDC MIA? / Jim Curran and Mark Rosenberg

"I think there are some people who are afraid that the truth will hurt the economy. That if we let CDC speak the truth, that will hurt stock prices, that will hurt people's jobs and the manufacturing sector. But even when the truth may hurt, even when it's painful, we've got to know the truth. And right now, people are taking steps to keep CDC from speaking the truth.” -Dr. Mark Rosenberg In this episode,our co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain speak to former CDC scientists Dr. Mark Rosenberg and Dr. Jim Curran about the CDC’s lack of action during the COVID pandemic, and how CDC guidelines and research have been suppressed and muzzled. They discussthe agency’s complicated history with politicians, parallels with the HIV epidemic, what’s happening to the CDC’s work in the time of COVID, and what’s at stake when politics take precedent over science.Dr. Mark Rosenberg is a retired medical epidemiologist with the CDC and President Emeritus of the Task Force for Global Health. Dr. Jim Curran led the CDC’s HIV/AIDS Division before becoming an Assistant Surgeon General and now Dean of the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University. This podcast was created by Just Human Productions. We're powered and distributed by Simplecast. We're supported, in part, by listeners like you. #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #COVID #coronavirus

30 MIN1 w ago
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S1E24 / Is the CDC MIA? / Jim Curran and Mark Rosenberg

S1E23 / Our Immune System versus the Virus / Stanley Perlman and Jon Yewdell

“Antibodies are the easiest part of the immune system to measure. It's not the only part that's required for protection against this virus.” - Stanley Perlman In today’s episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain continue their discussion of the immune system. They speak with Stanley Perlman and Dr. Jon Yewdell about what happens when a virus enters the body and the different types of cells involved in each stage of the immune response against the virus. They talk about what is known so far about how the immune system reacts to a COVID infection and the degree of immunity that results post-infection. They also discuss how understanding the immune response is an important factor in developing an effective vaccine for COVID and putting an end to the current pandemic. Stanley Perlman is a professor of microbiology, immunology and pediatric infectious diseases at the University of Iowa. Dr. Jon Yewdell is a researcher at the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Disea...

20 MIN1 w ago
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S1E23 / Our Immune System versus the Virus / Stanley Perlman and Jon Yewdell

S1E22 / A False Choice: The Economy versus Public Health / Rashad Robinson, Alicia Garza, and Marshall Ganz

“Every night... we are literally cheering and clapping and beeping our horns for people that in many ways we're unwilling to fight for so that they could have $15 an hour. We call people essential workers now who we treated for so long, like anything but essential.” -Rashad Robinson In this episode, our co-host, Dr. Celine Gounder speaks to Rashad Robinson, Alicia Garza, and Marshall Ganz about essential workers such as caregivers, domestic workers, and agricultural workers. They discuss how these low-paying jobs are often staffed by immigrants and people of color, and how due to systemic racism these jobs have historically been excluded from laws and unions that protect workers. Essential workers are now being given the false choice between going to work and risking their health, or staying home and not being able to feed their families. Alicia Garza is the principal at Black Futures Lab, the co-creator of the Black Lives Matter Global Network, and the strategy and partnerships d...

22 MIN2 w ago
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S1E22 / A False Choice: The Economy versus Public Health / Rashad Robinson, Alicia Garza, and Marshall Ganz

S1E21 / Are Antibodies the Holy Grail? / Kaitlyn Sadtler and Matt Memmoli

“A lot of people don't realize this, but there are other cold-inducing coronaviruses that give us the common cold that we've all had in our lives, and some of those coronaviruses can give you antibodies that would give a positive test on some SARS-CoV-2, COVID tests.” – Dr. Matt Memmoli In this episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain discuss the science of the immune response and the role antibodies can play in how the immune system responds to an infection. They talk with Kaitlyn Sadtler, PhD, an investigator at the National Institutes of Health, and Dr. Matt Memmoli, director of the Lab of Infectious Diseases Clinical Studies Unit at the National Institutes of Health, about how the body builds immunity to future infections, as well as how scientists determine how long such immunity will last. Does someone who has experienced a COVID-19 infection acquire lasting immunity to the virus? Matt and Kaitlyn also discuss their own research and how it can help better determin...

25 MIN2 w ago
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S1E21 / Are Antibodies the Holy Grail? / Kaitlyn Sadtler and Matt Memmoli

S1E20 / Not Business As Usual / Celine Gounder and Geoff Baird

"Still, like 90% of our patients are COVID patients. This is still not normal.” -Dr. Celine Gounder In this episode, our co-host, Dr. Celine Gounder, shares how her experience treating patients at Bellevue Hospital in New York City is different in early May 2020 than it was March and April. In addition, Dr. Gounder and co-host Ron Klain speak with Dr. Geoffrey Baird at the University of Washington School of Medicine in Seattle on why his hospital was way head of the rest of the country in testing for COVID-19 and what some of the challenges are likely to be going forward. This podcast was created by Just Human Productions. We're powered and distributed by Simplecast. We're supported, in part, by listeners like you. #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #COVID #coronavirus

32 MIN3 w ago
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S1E20 / Not Business As Usual / Celine Gounder and Geoff Baird

S1E19 / A Return to Sports, a Return to “Normal” Life? / Rohan Nadkarni, Grant Wahl, and Peter King

"I can't stress this enough. Rudy Gobert testing positive was the best thing that happened for the NBA. It arguably, in many ways, is the best thing that happened for this country.I don't think people were taking this seriously, Celine, until they found out an entity like the NBA could suspend its season because of the coronavirus.” -Rohan Nadkarni In this episode,our co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain speak toRohan Nadkarni, Grant Wahl, and Peter King and look at the pandemic through the lens of basketball, soccer, and football to see how COVID is changing the way sports are played. They discuss what these games might look like for fans and players when they resume, how COVID is affecting the business of sports, and what the consequences are of trying to play sports in the middle of the pandemic. Grant Wahl is America's leading soccer journalist. He spent 24 years at Sports Illustrated, covering college basketball and soccer, and is the author of the New York Times bestsell...

25 MIN3 w ago
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S1E19 / A Return to Sports, a Return to “Normal” Life? / Rohan Nadkarni, Grant Wahl, and Peter King

S1E18 / Without Shelter in a Storm / Rosanne Haggerty, Jake Maguire, and Cindy Funkhouser

“It's scary for everybody, but imagine yourself being someone that can't socially isolate, that has no home, that doesn't have a TV and doesn't know what's going on. And all of a sudden, everyone has disappeared.” -Cindy Funkhouser, CEO Sulzbacher Center In today’s episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain speak with three advocates working to end homelessness. Rosanne Haggerty is the founder of Community Solutions in New York, and Jack Maguire the co-director of the Built for Zero Initiative at Community Solutions. These organizations work with more than 80 cities using data to prevent homelessness, build and sustain homeless response systems, and deliver affordable housing. Dr. Gounder and Ron Klain also talk with Cindy Funkhouser, the CEO of the Sulzbacher Center in Jacksonville, Florida. The Sulzbacher Center works to address all aspects of homelessness through a continuum of care. They discuss what it means to be homeless in America during the time of COVID, and how...

32 MIN3 w ago
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S1E18 / Without Shelter in a Storm / Rosanne Haggerty, Jake Maguire, and Cindy Funkhouser

Latest Episodes

S1E26 / Indigenous Peoples / Rebecca Nagle, Melissa Begay, and Jamescita Peshlakai

“I think there's always sort of like Indian humor with everything and so there were a lot of people making jokes about Trump putting a travel ban in place to stop the spread of disease from Europe. A lot of native people on Twitter and Facebook were commenting that it was, you know, a few centuries too late." -Rebecca Nagle In this episode,our host Dr. Celine Gounder speaks toRebecca Nagle, Dr. Melissa Begay, and Jamescita Peshlakai about why the Navajo Nation has been so hard hit by COVID, and what their communities are doing to protect everyone—young and old—during this pandemic. The Navajo Nation isthe nation’s largest indigenous tribe and has the highest per capita infection rate of COVID in the United States. Dr. Melissa Begay is a member of the Navajo Nation, and a physician at the University of New Mexico in the Department of Pulmonary, Sleep and Critical Care.Jamescita Peshlakai is anArizona State Representative and represents eight tribes in her district, including the ...

29 MIN21 h ago
Comments
S1E26 / Indigenous Peoples / Rebecca Nagle, Melissa Begay, and Jamescita Peshlakai

S1E25 / A COVID Vaccine / Seth Berkley and Peter Hotez

“Terrible diseases like smallpox, polio, yellow fever where, you know, the capital in the United States in those days, Philadelphia, in the 1700s, 10% of the population died. When you vaccinate against them, you prevent them, and they no longer are problems.” - Seth Berkley In today’s episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain speak with Seth Berkley and Dr. Peter Hotez about a topic that has received a lot of attention lately-- vaccines. They discuss the processes involved in developing a vaccine for COVID-19, including when we can realistically expect a vaccine to become available to the public. They talk about the concept of herd immunity and how high vaccination rates are an essential component to this process. They also discuss the anti-vaxxer movement and how mis-messaging may be playing a part in fueling the flames of this movement in regards to a COVID-19 vaccine. Finally, they talk about the need for continued vaccine research in order to be prepared for the next inevitable pandemic. Also, co-host Ron Klain says his farewell to “Epidemic” fans as he announces that this will be his final episode as a co-host of the podcast. Seth Berkley is the CEO of the GAVI Vaccine Alliance. Dr. Peter Hotez is Dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine.

32 MIN3 d ago
Comments
S1E25 / A COVID Vaccine / Seth Berkley and Peter Hotez

BONUS / #theshowmustbepaused

We’re going to hold the release of our next episode until tomorrow. The show must be paused. Consider this a moment of silence... a pause… in honor of George Floyd’s memory. This is a moment in which we should all take a knee… and take a stand against police brutality against the black community. When we should all ask… why have we’ve accepted laws and institutions… that lead people of color to get sick and die… in such higher numbers from the coronavirus… than the rest of us. This is a moment when… all of us… all of us Americans… must honor all the people of color in our nation who’ve died wrongly… needlessly… and senselessly. And so… let us pray for our country… let us contemplate a new way… let us hope… for a better future together.

2 MIN3 d ago
Comments
BONUS / #theshowmustbepaused

S1E24 / Is the CDC MIA? / Jim Curran and Mark Rosenberg

"I think there are some people who are afraid that the truth will hurt the economy. That if we let CDC speak the truth, that will hurt stock prices, that will hurt people's jobs and the manufacturing sector. But even when the truth may hurt, even when it's painful, we've got to know the truth. And right now, people are taking steps to keep CDC from speaking the truth.” -Dr. Mark Rosenberg In this episode,our co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain speak to former CDC scientists Dr. Mark Rosenberg and Dr. Jim Curran about the CDC’s lack of action during the COVID pandemic, and how CDC guidelines and research have been suppressed and muzzled. They discussthe agency’s complicated history with politicians, parallels with the HIV epidemic, what’s happening to the CDC’s work in the time of COVID, and what’s at stake when politics take precedent over science.Dr. Mark Rosenberg is a retired medical epidemiologist with the CDC and President Emeritus of the Task Force for Global Health. Dr. Jim Curran led the CDC’s HIV/AIDS Division before becoming an Assistant Surgeon General and now Dean of the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University. This podcast was created by Just Human Productions. We're powered and distributed by Simplecast. We're supported, in part, by listeners like you. #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #COVID #coronavirus

30 MIN1 w ago
Comments
S1E24 / Is the CDC MIA? / Jim Curran and Mark Rosenberg

S1E23 / Our Immune System versus the Virus / Stanley Perlman and Jon Yewdell

“Antibodies are the easiest part of the immune system to measure. It's not the only part that's required for protection against this virus.” - Stanley Perlman In today’s episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain continue their discussion of the immune system. They speak with Stanley Perlman and Dr. Jon Yewdell about what happens when a virus enters the body and the different types of cells involved in each stage of the immune response against the virus. They talk about what is known so far about how the immune system reacts to a COVID infection and the degree of immunity that results post-infection. They also discuss how understanding the immune response is an important factor in developing an effective vaccine for COVID and putting an end to the current pandemic. Stanley Perlman is a professor of microbiology, immunology and pediatric infectious diseases at the University of Iowa. Dr. Jon Yewdell is a researcher at the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Disea...

20 MIN1 w ago
Comments
S1E23 / Our Immune System versus the Virus / Stanley Perlman and Jon Yewdell

S1E22 / A False Choice: The Economy versus Public Health / Rashad Robinson, Alicia Garza, and Marshall Ganz

“Every night... we are literally cheering and clapping and beeping our horns for people that in many ways we're unwilling to fight for so that they could have $15 an hour. We call people essential workers now who we treated for so long, like anything but essential.” -Rashad Robinson In this episode, our co-host, Dr. Celine Gounder speaks to Rashad Robinson, Alicia Garza, and Marshall Ganz about essential workers such as caregivers, domestic workers, and agricultural workers. They discuss how these low-paying jobs are often staffed by immigrants and people of color, and how due to systemic racism these jobs have historically been excluded from laws and unions that protect workers. Essential workers are now being given the false choice between going to work and risking their health, or staying home and not being able to feed their families. Alicia Garza is the principal at Black Futures Lab, the co-creator of the Black Lives Matter Global Network, and the strategy and partnerships d...

22 MIN2 w ago
Comments
S1E22 / A False Choice: The Economy versus Public Health / Rashad Robinson, Alicia Garza, and Marshall Ganz

S1E21 / Are Antibodies the Holy Grail? / Kaitlyn Sadtler and Matt Memmoli

“A lot of people don't realize this, but there are other cold-inducing coronaviruses that give us the common cold that we've all had in our lives, and some of those coronaviruses can give you antibodies that would give a positive test on some SARS-CoV-2, COVID tests.” – Dr. Matt Memmoli In this episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain discuss the science of the immune response and the role antibodies can play in how the immune system responds to an infection. They talk with Kaitlyn Sadtler, PhD, an investigator at the National Institutes of Health, and Dr. Matt Memmoli, director of the Lab of Infectious Diseases Clinical Studies Unit at the National Institutes of Health, about how the body builds immunity to future infections, as well as how scientists determine how long such immunity will last. Does someone who has experienced a COVID-19 infection acquire lasting immunity to the virus? Matt and Kaitlyn also discuss their own research and how it can help better determin...

25 MIN2 w ago
Comments
S1E21 / Are Antibodies the Holy Grail? / Kaitlyn Sadtler and Matt Memmoli

S1E20 / Not Business As Usual / Celine Gounder and Geoff Baird

"Still, like 90% of our patients are COVID patients. This is still not normal.” -Dr. Celine Gounder In this episode, our co-host, Dr. Celine Gounder, shares how her experience treating patients at Bellevue Hospital in New York City is different in early May 2020 than it was March and April. In addition, Dr. Gounder and co-host Ron Klain speak with Dr. Geoffrey Baird at the University of Washington School of Medicine in Seattle on why his hospital was way head of the rest of the country in testing for COVID-19 and what some of the challenges are likely to be going forward. This podcast was created by Just Human Productions. We're powered and distributed by Simplecast. We're supported, in part, by listeners like you. #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #COVID #coronavirus

32 MIN3 w ago
Comments
S1E20 / Not Business As Usual / Celine Gounder and Geoff Baird

S1E19 / A Return to Sports, a Return to “Normal” Life? / Rohan Nadkarni, Grant Wahl, and Peter King

"I can't stress this enough. Rudy Gobert testing positive was the best thing that happened for the NBA. It arguably, in many ways, is the best thing that happened for this country.I don't think people were taking this seriously, Celine, until they found out an entity like the NBA could suspend its season because of the coronavirus.” -Rohan Nadkarni In this episode,our co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain speak toRohan Nadkarni, Grant Wahl, and Peter King and look at the pandemic through the lens of basketball, soccer, and football to see how COVID is changing the way sports are played. They discuss what these games might look like for fans and players when they resume, how COVID is affecting the business of sports, and what the consequences are of trying to play sports in the middle of the pandemic. Grant Wahl is America's leading soccer journalist. He spent 24 years at Sports Illustrated, covering college basketball and soccer, and is the author of the New York Times bestsell...

25 MIN3 w ago
Comments
S1E19 / A Return to Sports, a Return to “Normal” Life? / Rohan Nadkarni, Grant Wahl, and Peter King

S1E18 / Without Shelter in a Storm / Rosanne Haggerty, Jake Maguire, and Cindy Funkhouser

“It's scary for everybody, but imagine yourself being someone that can't socially isolate, that has no home, that doesn't have a TV and doesn't know what's going on. And all of a sudden, everyone has disappeared.” -Cindy Funkhouser, CEO Sulzbacher Center In today’s episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain speak with three advocates working to end homelessness. Rosanne Haggerty is the founder of Community Solutions in New York, and Jack Maguire the co-director of the Built for Zero Initiative at Community Solutions. These organizations work with more than 80 cities using data to prevent homelessness, build and sustain homeless response systems, and deliver affordable housing. Dr. Gounder and Ron Klain also talk with Cindy Funkhouser, the CEO of the Sulzbacher Center in Jacksonville, Florida. The Sulzbacher Center works to address all aspects of homelessness through a continuum of care. They discuss what it means to be homeless in America during the time of COVID, and how...

32 MIN3 w ago
Comments
S1E18 / Without Shelter in a Storm / Rosanne Haggerty, Jake Maguire, and Cindy Funkhouser
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